| MONDAY
3RD NOVEMBER 2008
Present:
Roy Pugh - Chairman
Joyce Stewart - Secretary
Ken Richardson - Member
Greg Green - Member
Margaret Whitley - Member
Bernard Whitley - Member
John Dawes - Member
The
meeting began at 11am.
Item
1. Apologies: Mary Cooper, Brian Tokely, Rathnait Mullen.
Absent: Irache Mereno.
Item
2: Minutes of the 40th Committee meeting.
Minutes were read.
Matters
Arising:
Courier: At the last committee meeting a proposal was made and
carried that monies remaining in what was the CRA/Courier bank
account belong to the CRA.
Since then Greg Green has spoken to Rod Sawyer who put the case
that the money had been paid in for advertisements published in
the September edition of the Courier and as such is not for use
by the CRA. A proposal was made;
That
the balance remaining in this account should be given to Rod Sawyer.
Proposed: Greg Green
Seconded: Bernard Whitley
Votes in favour: 3 Against: 2 Abstained: 1 Carried
Action:
Roy to go with Rod to clear the account.
Chair to contact Mary to arrange transfer of the phone bill to
the General Fund account.
That
a new phone be bought, the bills set against the General Fund
account and the Pareton account then closed.
Proposed: Joyce Stewart
Seconded: Ken Richardson Carried Unanimously
Web-site:
Greg confirmed that Front Page and Contact Page have both been
updated.
Sunday
Boot:
Chair advised that he has received a communication from Rathnait
saying that she and Rod have no wish to carry the petition started
by them any further forward, and have left it any further action
in the hands of the CRA. Unfortunately the majority of the signatures
on the petition are not accompanied by NIE numbers which means
that they would not be included in the count of petitioners by
the authorities. As priorities are the Lawyers Report and Turistico,
it was decided to defer any action on this until a later date.
Action:
Deferred
Accountant:
To date, an accountant willing to do the accounts of the Courier
has not been found.
Chair is to ask the manager of La Caixa for any suggestion he
may have.
Action:
Deferred to next agenda
Correos:
Joaquín has been asked to make enquiries about when Correos
plan to be in business on Camposol.
Clean-up
Campaign:
Greg reported that several groups of people have already begun
to tidy up their immediate areas in several parts of the estate.
More volunteers have signed up to help when asked. Sector D have
their own action group organized and in action.
At the next meeting with Masa, we will be suggesting areas where
garden waste can be put to be collected monthly (as offered at
the last meeting).
New
Camposol Courier news sheet:
Print prices have been obtained, we have a volunteer to do the
formatting, the search goes on for Sponsors.
That
the Minutes of the 40th meeting are a true record was
Proposed: Bernard Whitley
Seconded: Ken Richardson Carried Unanimously.
Item 3. The Report.
Chair began by saying that parts of Camposol are now 11 years
old and still unfinished. An incumbent council takes on the agreements
of their predecessors, and successive councils have shown only
indifference to Camposol.
His hope has always been that talks would find solutions but both
the Council and Masa should be made aware that the natives of
Camposol are becoming restless, and this Report shows where and
on who's part the shortcomings lie. In his opinion the full Report
should be sent to the Mayor and to Masa. A three way meeting should
be asked for although he thought it unlikely that would happen.
An E.G.M will be needed to ask the opinion of the membership,
who must have time to study the report before an E.G.M as it would
be impractical to go through all 50 pages step by step at a public
meeting.
To put the report on view in the post room would cause too much
congestion and cost of a bound copy being 7.50€ means it
is impossible to give copies away.
He reminded that it cost 300€ to hold the A.G.M. and an E.G.M.
will cost the same, and said the Report itself is expected to
cost around 8,400€.
He asked the committee for their opinions and suggestions.
A discussion followed in which all members put forward their views.
Chairman then read the e-mail he had sent to Joaquín prior
to this meeting asking that he write a covering letter to go with
the Report, the reply of agreement to do so, as well as to send
a further letter to the Mayor requesting he recognise the CRA
as a legitimate Residents Association. He said the Report is the
property of the members as they donated the funds to pay for it,
but he felt it should be sent to the Council and Masa before being
made public as to issue it too soon would detract from its impact
at the Council and with Masa.
Greg disagreed with this saying he felt the membership should
see the Report immediately as failure to publicise it now could
lose the CRA credibility and members, while Ken thought that we
should wait for a response from the Ayuntamiento before publishing.
The majority of those present were in favour of the Report being
released immediately.
It
was Proposed: That a letter, prepared by Garrigues on behalf of
the CRA, be sent to the Ayuntamiento and to Masa to accompany
the Report demanding a meeting within 28 days of receipt of same.
Proposed: Greg Green
Seconded: Joyce Stewart Carried Unanimously
That
an Extraordinary General Meeting be called on November 25th to
put a plan of action to the membership. To facilitate that meeting
the full Garrigues Report be available to the membership either
by the website or hard copy on request.
Proposed: Greg Green
Seconded: Joyce Stewart Carried Unanimously. Item 4. Turistico
Roy began by saying that the Report makes no reference to Turistico
other than that Camposol was planned from the beginning to be
60/40% residential/turistico.
Daniel Bascuñana has said "they are a house like any
other house" with advantages when letting.
Joaquín Ruiz broadly agrees with this but has said that
in his opinion a problem might arise when selling on, though not
if a buyer were unconcerned by the designation. He has also said
that as Camposol is inland with no tourist amenities it may be
possible to negotiate a change of designation.
Given that many occupiers of turistico properties have supported
the Lawyers Fund, and there will be funds left when the Report
is paid for, Roy asked the committee to consider how we can support
them.
It was said that no clear definition of turistico has ever been
given and there are many points of concern. If all the questions
could be answered, making clear the legalities and conditions,
it would give peace of mind to those committed to living here.
There are now three committee members directly affected who could
make a comprehensive list of these concerns.
That a list of concerns be made for the attention of Joaquín,
and after first asking the cost, we ask him to supply the answers.
Proposed: Joyce Stewart
Seconded: John Dawes Carried Unanimously
That being the end of business, meeting closed at 1.15pm
Next
meeting arranged for Monday 17th November at 11am. |
