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Date: 18 August 2008

Tuesday 18th August 2008

The meeting opened at 11:00hrs

Venue: Conference Suite B, Hotel Sensol, Camposol

Those Present:
Roy Pugh Chairman
Brian Tokely Vice Chairman
Mary Cooper Secretary/Treasurer
Raithnait Mullen Press Officer
Barry Cooper Committee Member
Ken Richardson Committee Member
Joyce Stewart Committee Member
Bernard Whitley Committee Member
Margaret Whitley Committee Member

Chairmans Opening Speech:

The Chairman opened the meeting at 11am saying he was pleasantly surprised by the numbers attending and thanked everyone for their show of support. He then introduced the members of the committee to the assembly thanking the two newest members for offering their services.

He said that the Agenda for this A.G.M. had been published in the Courier and while the subject of Garrigues Report not shown as an Item, he felt that all would be in favour if it were dealt with first as it had been a long time in coming.

He first gave a short background for those who were unaware of the history. He explained how the decision was taken some 17 months ago to commission a ´Report on the Legal Situation of Camposol; that Garrigues were contacted and Joaquín Ataz Ruiz had agreed to take on the task of collecting the relevant Council documents and producing a report; that Joaquín and his then assistant had spent many mornings in the offices of Mazarrón Council and transferred the content of some 2000 documents dating back to 1992 on to disc for further study. After many delays the Report was received a few days ago, 52 pages in Spanish, with a full translation expected at the end of September, and a Synopsis in English of some of the important issues. It was hoped that Joaquín and/or Francesca would attend today athough both are now officially on holiday.
He then went on to read the Synopsis to the assembly. In short, it states:

From this Report we can make the following conclusions about the legal situation of Camposol.

Reception by the Council will take place in phases as the urban planning deadlines are reached.
Once those deadlines are reached, the Council will give the promoter extra time to finish the work, and mend those technical faults found in the constructions regarding the projects approved by the Council.

Once this new deadline is reached, if the work still fails to meet the standards that allow reception of the estate, then the Council is allowed (and obliged - by its duty as guardian of the general interest and legality) to demand payment of the bank guarantee submitted by the promoter to ensure the project would be properly finished, and will carry out the remaining activities to complete the work according to the approved project (charging the expenses to the guarantee).

This power becomes the Council's duty to the citizen, who ought to ask the council to exercise its power in defence of the citizen's rights, to assure the legality of the urban planning and its correspondence with the reality of the constructed area.

At this point Francesca Abellaneda, Joaquín's assistant joined the meeting, and was introduced. Chairman said that at the last meeting with Joaquín he, Joaquín, had said that we might consider acting as the Spaniards would and make a protest march on the Town Hall. (A suggestion which received loud cheers of support from the floor).

The deadlines we speak of were passed long ago for Sector A, but even for Sector BCDF (where deadlines have not yet been reached), it would be possible to claim of the Council that it give the citizens with particular interests protection (as it is legally forced to) using the powers that the Law gives it for that purpose. This is because just as it is true that the deadlines are not yet over for Sector BCDF, it is also true that occupation of the houses and establishments was not meant to have already happened. This makes Sector BCDF's situation very particular, as brought forward deadlines have not yet been reached for this Sector, however the Council is materially forced to intervene to guarantee the appropriate provision of services to those citizens who are at present occupying the area (with the Council's permission).
In any case, one can easily see that Sector BCDF is not as it was due to be on the approved plans,
which are now being modified.
It is a Council duty to guarantee the finished urbanisation is as planned.

(Chair explained that the current modification referred to - made at at the behest of the Sociedad de Agua, and explained to us by Daniel Bascuñana of Masa - will if passed at Regional and Local levels, mean that an open channel will be created around the far perimeter of D to divert rainwater away from the houses into an existing Rambla, and Masa will have to do, and pay for, the work).

On the other hand, the conservation of Sector A is a duty which falls to the owners on Sector A, (without detriment of any kind to obligations that may be the promoters responsibility), due to the contracts of sale signed between the promoter and the owners. This is the task the Preserving Entity was established for on the provisional reception of the sector by the Council some years ago.
In any case it has not been proved that any kind of activity was assumed by the Entity yet.

Also, with regard to the content of the Preservation Due, that will be determined by the Approved Statutes of the established Preservation Entity which will specify the particular scope assumed by the Entity and the owners that compose it.

The situation is quite different for Sector BCDF. It is specific in the planning instruments (which are binding in character) that the promoter will assume the preservation of the sector until reception by the Council takes place. At that time the owners on Sector BCDF will join the Preservation Entity that has already been established for Sector A and all owners will assume the Duty of Preservation.

Chairman: - It appears that the Homeowners Committee of Sector A do indeed have an Entity registered, with a CIF number, but it appears that all of Camposol, at some point, will have to be within this same Entity. This being the case then the Statutes of that Entity, which in the future will have an effect on all of us, should be available for all to see, and when the time comes then the Entity committee should be made up of members from all areas of Camposol not only Sector A.
The synopsis ends with:

It is advisable that the owners consider undertaking legal actions in the cases of unfulfilled contracts and responsibilities assumed by the promoter (claiming the fulfilment of the sale contracts on the courts) or by the Council (to demand it use its power to control the promoter's activity) as an appropriate option, to avoid more delays and damages.

As was brought forward, those legal actions could be undertaken by the CRA, in its capacity as Resident's Association, though it might be advisable to enclose some individual actions for particular owners before the Civil Court. This point will have to be properly studied.
END

Chairman said that no doubt there would be many present with concerns that the Turistico issue had not been mentioned. He read out an e-mail which had been received from a member, Mr. Lloyd Jones, which said some owners on the Country Club development had also had the same problem, but due to representations by the promoter Huma to the Council, the properties have been re-classified. Chair gave an assurance that once this information had been verified, it will have set a precedent and the matter will be taken up with Masa. If true then it would seem to confirm what Joaquín has advised all along ie. that negociation can bring about change. Mr. Jones was at the meeting and confirmed that he knew one of the owners affected and that the facts were true.

From the floor a question was asked about when the deadlines mentioned in the Report would be reached and did this mean there would be no Certificates of Habitation until then.
Francesca said that 2013 is the current extended deadline for completion of Sector BCDF as will be seen in the main Report. Certificates should not be issued until reception by the Council, but equally so the houses should not be occupied.

The meeting then returned to the Agenda.
Item 1) A Review of the last year.
Chair said that a review had been published in the Courier already this year and there was little to add to it other than the Report which had already been covered. Copies of that review were available today for those who wanted one.
He assured that we will continue to press on the Turistico issue and the missing Abril 28 and pool licences, adding that if work done on a property has stood without official problems for four years it appears that it is politic not to chase up a licence with the Town hall as this might generate an inspection and fine. Licences for Masa built pools are slowly coming through the system and can be seen in Masa's office.
Over the last year Chair reported that we have taken 52 complaints by residents to the attention of Masa, all of which had to be brought up more than once before they were acted on, and had varying degrees of success with some still ongoing . He emphasised the frustration he feels, as having to go over the same ground repeatedly prevents progress on other matters.

Item 2) Financial Report
Mary Cooper gave a brief report on the state of the finances, and a copy will be in the Courier and at the Business Centre.

Item 3) Membership Register
Chair reported: at 17.07.08 there were 1832 on the register, with a further 28 signed on at today's meeting.

Questions and Comments.
Chair told the assembly that he had received prior to the meeting, 3 identical written Proposals all with seconders, and asked that one of the Proposers step up and put the Proposal to the assembly on behalf of the rest.
Proposal:
That Brian Tokeley be removed from the Committee of the CRA, forthwith.
Proposed: A. Connolly Seconded: M.Connolly
As reason (in short, as all 3 declined to put their reasons in writing prior) Mr. Connolly said that Brian Tokely's affiliation to the PP party in Mazarrón is a detrimental influence on his input to the CRA. Furthermore, Brian should not have one to one meetings with Cllr. Galvez, the committee should meet with the Mayor and the Council.
In reply Brian said that he had never made any secret of his political affiliations, gave his background in English local politics, and said that his meetings with Cllr. Galvez were clearly at the request of the Committee as they are minuted and published. He gives freely of his time and energy to the committee, rarely misses a meeting and feels his input is useful.
Chair asked for a show of hands. Of the approximately 200 present:
Those in favour of the Proposal :
17
Those against : the majority.
Not Carried

Chair then asked was Irache Merino in the room. She was, and he asked her had she resigned from the committee.
Irache addressed the meeting saying she had been occupied this year with work and personal commitments,that she still had another court case pending, did not want to resign and would attend when her commitments allowed.
Chair said, Irache has not attended a meeting this year, didn't attend the AGM last year, has made no input whatsoever to any of the activities of the CRA, and made no contact with anyone to explain her failures to attend. Also she had included in her published resignation from Parema, an unfounded personal attack on on the conduct of himself and the Vice Chairman of the CRA during the last Local Elections.

A directive came from the floor that this should not be dealt with at the AGM but settled elsewhere, and the meeting should move on.
Chairman agreed.

Questions came from the floor about streetlighting and the closing down of businesses on the commercial centre. To which Chair replied that lighting is on almost every Agenda with Masa and we can only relay the information given, and the onus is surely on any business to ensure its own legallity before it opens its doors. The loss of these businesses is another inconvenience to us all but it is not within the remit of the CRA committee.

A positive suggestion was made from the floor that we consider having poligono representatives as before, who could keep the committee informed of poligono problems, with the offer to rep his own poligono if asked.

Chairman's Closing Statement

"The aim of the CRA is in its Statement of Intent, which is to get the things we were promised when we bought, and the services to which we are entitled as our citizens rights. The small part of the Lawyers Report we have has given a wake up call about the future. What else will follow? The way forward to get unfulfilled promises honoured is in your hands. A committee cannot move forward without the support of its members. We need more people to offer their services on the committee, and we need practical support. For most of this year the committee has had to function by the efforts of five people. The social programme to raise funds had to be closed down through lack of support. We advertised in the Courier over three months for committee members before our two most recent volunteers came forward.
I, as Chairman, need to know there are willing people in reserve and I am appealing personally for your support, because without it I shall have to withdraw mine. We cannot go on as we have been.
On behalf of the committee I thank you all again for your interest today".

The A.G.M. closed at 12.50 pm.

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